Christians Together : Where is our faith?

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	The Editor	02/03/2008, 19:20
UK banks write off record £6.8bn in household debt. See - http://tinyurl.com/35bhjg
	The Editor	15/03/2008, 17:13
As the Federal Reserve and JPMorgan Chase combined to provide emergency finance for 85-year-old Bear Stearns and prevent further upheaval in global markets, it is interesting (if that's the word) to re-read the word given out by Stewart Dool (of Intercessors for Britain)in July 2007, when Northern Rock was just another name in the high street..... To The Church And Nation of Britain I am about to send fire upon you, the fire of My judgment, and it will consume on the right and on the left. All who have spurned My ways and My words will reap what they have sown, for in My burning anger I will judge the gods in whom you have put your trust, the gods of materialism and covetousness. The gold and the silver will be taken from you, and your portion will be emptiness, desolation and vanity. I will bring the stability of your currency into doubt, to show you that it is I alone who caused you to prosper in the past. I raised you to prominence among the nations and gave you authority over many peoples: so you became rich, and boasted in your wealth, but I will bring you low, and the nations over whom you once ruled will say “What has happened to this great nation?” As you have feared other gods, and not feared Me, so I will visit your deeds upon you. Your idolatries have led you astray, and you have become like those before whom you bow down. I commanded your fathers that they should not fear the gods of the nations, but you have not obeyed Me. Therefore I have given you into the hands of abominations and all manner of uncleanness. Darkness will envelope those who have led my people into false light, for I will no longer forbear in my wrath. I will blind them, and they shall stumble in the perversity of their ways. Many shall follow them into darkness and be taken in the snare of the wicked, for they have loved to wander, and they have not watched the path of their feet. My people give heed to those who prophesy a lie, and they delight in the teachers of falsehood. They run to those who steal from them by their destructive heresies, for they cannot discern the paths of righteousness. A wave of deception is about to break forth that will sweep many away, therefore take heed to yourselves, and cling to the word of My truth. I am bringing My Church to a time of testing, and I will search the hearts of all who call upon My name, and I will know those who are mine, and they shall know their God. My displeasure will be visited upon your Government, for those who rule over you have become offensive to Me, as they have set aside My laws and My statutes, exalting the wicked and despising My holy name. You have not abhorred bloodshed, therefore the blood of your sons and daughters will lie in your streets, until you learn that as the cry of the unborn calls to me for vengeance, so I shall require it of you. All these things I will do, because you have rejected Me, and thought that your own power could save you. Yet even now, if you will cry out to Me, and turn from your wickedness, I will spare. Nevertheless, I will chasten you in measure, and you shall know that I am the Lord. My beloved ones, the hour of My patience will not continue much longer. I call your therefore to seek my face with earnestness and zeal, that I may extend compassion to your land and people. ----- This prophetic word received by Stewart Dool (who heads up Intercessors for Britain) in the week 23-27 July 2007. It has been weighed and tested by others in senior positions of ministry.
	Peter Carr (Guest)	16/03/2008, 12:40
Do we know who these 'others' are who are in 'senior positions of ministry'?
	The Editor	16/03/2008, 16:37
One would be (is) Rev. David Andrew (a Scot and editor of Sword magazine)who writes: "Please test this [Dool's message] in your hearts and local fellowships, we commend this message from Stewart Dool as being consistent with Scripture and with out own 'hearing' of the Lord for our day". However, the principle injunction is for each and every believer to 'weigh' these things before the Lord and under the Holy Spirit. See: http://christianstogether.net/Group/Group.aspx?id=61329
	Peter Carr (Guest)	17/03/2008, 15:44
The crisis deepens, the following is an extract from the news as reported on AOL 17th Mar '08; Terry Smith, chief executive of specialist inter-bank broker Tullett Prebon, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "It does scare me. I have been working in finance in the City and worldwide for 34 years and I have never seen anything like this. "I don't think anybody alive has seen events of this seriousness and magnitude affecting the financial markets."
	The Editor	31/07/2008, 20:26
Christians Against Poverty calls on churches to help free UK from debt As the UK slides further into the red, a leading debt counselling charity today urged churches across the country to engage with what it calls the "Goliath" of personal debt ahead of the UK’s largest debt awareness day to take place later this year. Read on... http://tinyurl.com/6elhww
	The Editor	08/08/2008, 19:08
Credit crunch still worsening. See - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7302341.stm
	Paul Valler (LICC) (Guest)	24/10/2008, 10:44
The sight of stunned employees carrying their personal possessions in cardboard boxes out of the Lehman Bank building is etched in my memory. Gathering in a state of shock in local bars, some dulled their pain with alcohol and tried to rebuild self-worth through group support. And this might well prove to be just the tip of the iceberg; ‘downsizing’ will likely hit many of us with a new intensity as the economy falls into recession. Whatever the cause, the impact of losing your job is often traumatic. Redundancy strikes at the heart of our most basic human needs for acceptance, security and identity. Inevitably, feelings of rejection, pain and confusion accompany being thrown out of an organisation. A friend of mine said it felt like being kicked in the stomach by an angry stallion. There is a very real sense of pain and grief. It is not just the loss of the job and the income; it is the loss of the sense of belonging to the workplace community, and of the associated organisational identity and future. Thankfully, nobody can ever be redundant from their calling and vocation in the kingdom of God, or lose their identity in Christ. When the metaphorical rug is pulled out from under the feet of the Christian, it reveals the sure footing of the rock that cannot be moved. Nothing changes our self-worth, our acceptance, or our personal significance and dignity in God’s sight. Redundancy is a time when the body of Christ has an opportunity to demonstrate the love of God to those feeling rejected. Showing personal friendship, being available to listen, providing financial help and prayer ministry are gifts we can give. Redundancy can be a time to reflect more deeply about our calling, so helping someone work through the process of understanding their gifts and vocation is a significant contribution towards redeployment. Redundancy is also a time when people ask deep questions about meaning and purpose. It is therefore a time when the gospel can be discovered or reaffirmed as really good news. Whether or not we are in work, we enjoy a status before God of dearly loved children with no condemnation: ‘For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord’ (Romans 8:38-39). Paul Valler See full article: http://www.licc.org.uk/node/520
	Peter Carr	24/10/2008, 10:54
I also received the above email via LICC. One thing that has struck me about the current downturn and impending recession is that no-one as yet (correct me if I am wrong) has said that recession is not really a bad thing! Recently a lot of publicity has been given over to obesity in our society, particularly among children. So what do we do, put them on a diet, encourage them to a healthier lifestyle. This country like others in the west, has been getting too fat too quick and that cannot be good in the longterm. So maybe we should see the impending recession as a good and healthy thing for lots of reasons. Not least to help us refocus on the more important issues in life like God's values instead of ours!
	Peter Carr	24/10/2008, 17:02
P.S. To my post above. One of the regretable things about recession is the loss of jobs, however thankfully no one in this country needs to starve as a result.

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(This article was first published in November 2007)

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