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The spiritual condition of the United States

Ken Ham from Answers in Genesis gave an address to a worldwide audience earlier this week when he examined the spiritual health of America and challenged Christians to be prepared to answer the questions that people are asking.

Ken Ham largeAs a response to this question Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis has delivered his own ‘“State of the Nation II” speech, highlighting how far the U.S. has wandered from its moral foundations, and calling Christians back to their biblical roots.

Ham who is president of Answers in Genesis (AiG) the biblical apologetics ministry responsible for the world-renowned Creation Museum near Cincinnati, presented his speech from inside the Creation Museum and via webcast live last Tuesday.
In the advance publicity for the meeting which was webcast live he said:

You’ve heard from the president, government leaders, and others about the economy and the serious isues facing the country. But few of them address the deeper concern—our move away from a biblical foundation.
“Many Christians have been duped into accepting a false idea: that there is a ‘neutral’ position they can take in regard to social issues.“Some Christians even accept the myth that the U.S. Constitution declares that there should be a separation of church and state. They are hesitant to inject Christian beliefs into politics.”

Calling for a robust defence by Christian of what they believe Ham continued:

“God’s Word, however, makes it clear that there is no neutral position,” Ham continued. “God’s people need to unashamedly and uncompromisingly stand on the Bible and its absolute standards. We need to proclaim a Christian worldview and the gospel, all the while giving answers for the hope we have.”

The webcast touched on social issues such as abortion, “gay” marriage, origins, and the role of religion in society. The aim of the speech was and is to equip Christians with a clear understanding of what the Bible says on these matters—and find out how to defend the biblical viewpoint in an increasingly hostile environment.

“We need to learn what we can do to call America back to the only sure foundation—biblical authority,” Ham explained. “We need to stand unashamedly upon God’s Word in the face of a skeptical society and find out how we can do more than just watch our country slip into a moral quagmire. “The skeptical world expects answers. Get equipped to point people to the truth.”

During the course of the address he quoted from a speech by President Obama in which the latter affirmed that America was now a polytheistic nation. Ham and listed the ways in which the Christian 'marker stones' have been removed from public life. Ham argued that the 'reminders have been removed' and these aids to memory have produced a spiritual malaise which knows nothing of America's Christian heritage.
Prayer in schools, Scripture passages carved on government buildings, traditional marriage, the sanctity of life and the teaching of creation in public schools served as some of those reminders, he noted. But these have been and are progressively being removed, said Ham. And with that, younger generations are increasingly abandoning God's Word and making "man's word" their foundation.

Christians Together, 19/02/2010

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a h 28/02/2010 15:12
Listen up Mr Benn

You talk down your nose at anything or anyone who does not support your view of the world

I believe Jesus turned water into wine cos he turned a drug loving waste of space like me into a productive citizen with a story to tell.

You can say what you like, Jesus is real.

I've heard His voice and have seen his work in my life and others.

Ta ta.

Joel 2:32
"And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved;"
W Benn (Guest) 28/02/2010 16:46
Alan I have given much consideration to what you have said and would comment as follows:
[1]If Jesus works for you - and seemingly he has and does big time - carry on because for you the likely alternative is not productive.The opportunity cost consideration is not likely to work for you either, however Pascal's wager may well do so.

You say that I talk down my nose at anything or anyone that does not support my world view. Some Christians do that big time!They deflect, select, scurry to a book [one book]and become defensive; we all have a bit of that in us I suppose but it is very evident in some Christians.
I was a Christian but opened myself up to other influences e.g. Prof A C Grayling. I look at many points of view, including Christianity, and weigh them up. Occasionally my world view can change significantly, but more often than not it changes subtly owing to regular conversations with people from a wide spectrum of belief. I have visited a mosque - have several Catholic friends - my wider family inclued vicars - I have interviewd a bishop - I have listened to Jewish leaders and been friends of Jews etc. I am open to influence but have a point of view. I try to respect all people but that does not mean that I have to respect all aspects of your world view anymore than you have to respect mine.

Thank you for telling me that I can say what I like - so can you and I cherish your right to say it; you are not particularily bombastic and do not advocate putting a bomb on a London bus. I am confident that you have no desire to experience relations with x number of virgins and you no doubt despise what Hitler did etc etc - so I hope you carry on expressing your views but remain open to other points of view.
W Benn (Guest) 28/02/2010 16:53
My goodness a bit of passion from me at 16.46; so much so that my numbering system evaporated! It gets worse -a few letters have disobayed me by refusing to appear. Alan I hope you are not as bad for me as caffeine!
W Bell (Guest) 28/02/2010 17:02
i promise to call it a day now - 'disobayed' has done for me and will not be found in any bible.
W Benn (Guest) 28/02/2010 17:04
It gets worse I cannot even spell my name correctly. Sleep sleep is needed!
George Orr 28/02/2010 17:10

'Genesis record: simple. Poetry, not science'

The bible is full of poetry but Genesis ain't poetry. God quoted and inscribed it in the 10 commandments as law. Law ain't poetry. Jesus also quoted Genesis as history again not poetry.

You may want to call it poetry but my vote goes with God the Father and Jesus the Son.

Job 38:4 (New International Version)

4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
Penny Lee 28/02/2010 17:46

I accept none of us can 'prove' the accuracy of the Bible. It may be claimed to have been disproved due to false science or constant repetition until people believe what they are being told simply because they keep having it reinforced.

I believe the Bible by faith and because it makes perfect sense to me. I have never found a situation which contradicts what the Bible says.

I've never found any need to try to prove the accuracy of the Bible. God will do that in His own time and way and we will all find out for sure before too long.
a h 06/03/2010 21:52
Mr Benn, I apologise for my unbridled anger. I was a little miffed at some of your comments but I have no right to judge you or label you or call you names.

I am not a good debater when it comes to it and get carried away rather stupidly.

So, unreserved apologies.
Penny Lee 06/03/2010 23:22

I'm sure if W. Benn returns to the forum he will appreciate your apology.

From your previous comments, you obviously have a story to tell and we would be grateful to hear it if you feel able to share it with us. If so, perhaps you can email the Ed and offer to have it featured on the site.

Thanks and don't be too hard on yourself - we're all 'works in progress' and prone to instances of our old nature.
Editor 07/03/2010 09:56
Alan, Just to say (quickly at this moment) that Andrea has said it very well for me.
The Lord bless you for your honesty and apology. This is a true mark of God's grace in our lives.

If you wish to respond in any way (in private or for public use)please do be in touch.
In Christ, Ed.
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