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Creation Ministries International events
Creation Ministries International are holding two events in the Highlands at the beginning of March. One of these meetings is scheduled for Inverness; the other for Dornoch.
 Creation Ministries International its own speaking staff whose role it is to go out to where the people are and reach them with the message of the truth and authority of the Bible, and its relevance to the real world. CMI have found that an extremely effective way to get this message out into the population in general, and thus to increase the number of people getting converted, etc. is to arm and equip Christians.
The CMI website states that its aim regarding those who attend their meetings is to -
- give them answers to the common objections and queries people have on these issues, which are some of the most frequent objections to faith in Christ.
- show them how the Bible (and in particular its broad outline of history in Genesis, which is foundational to the gospel) is relevant to all of reality.
- provide them with resources (books, magazine, DVDs, etc) to be more effective in their own personal outreach. The most powerful tool, we find, is to ‘link’ people to be ‘fed’ via Creation magazine, the 56-page full-colour no-advertising family publication that is an incredible faith-building and witnessing tool. People who subscribe are automatically eligible to get our various printed newsletters as well, which provide further encouragement and information about what the ministry is doing.
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The meetings in the Highlands are as follows:
Inverness
Greyfriars and Stratherrick Free Church of Scotland
Balloan Road, Inverness, IV2 1EY
Thursday, 3 March 2011
at
7.30pm
Tel. Tel. 0143 714932
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Dornoch
Dornoch Academy,
Evelix Road, Dornoch, Sutherland, IV25 3HR
Friday, 4 March 2011
at 7.30pm
Tel. 01408 621459
These are public meetings to which all who are interested are wamly invited.
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| | | Martin Lisemore | 27/02/2011 18:02 | George, by all means be prepared to give an answer, we must, but for so many people and resources to be consumed? This is not now just a battle between Bible believing Christians and non believers, it's become an internecine battle between Christians.
The Reformation gave us the right of private interpretation of the Bible. That we don't all agree is not a matter for such ferocity as has been witnessed on god TV.
| | | | Rosemary Cameron | 27/02/2011 21:19 | I agree with George Orr's last post. My God became a lot bigger when I stopped trying to marry together my christian faith and evolution and started to believe in a young earth.
Going back to the original comments about the Free Church, while it is not as broad a church as the CofS, there is still a diversity of opinion within the FCofS on various matters, including creation/evolution. Rev David Robertson is an example of that diversity. I don't believe the church has an official position on creation/evolution.
| | | | Alec (Guest) | 28/02/2011 08:12 | Rosemary
To my mind, the man in the pulpit is every bit a teacher as well as a preacher. To have a "variety of positions" (as David Robertson himself once remarked) on the Origins debate is to my mind worthless
Basically what is being said is that if you go to one of our churches you'll get position X of you go to another, you'll get Y or maybe Z
But this is little more than a tacit statement that 2 of those 3 are actually wrong!
This issue is too important and too relevant for that sort of theological "breadth" After all, conservative (are they still conservative) churches like FCofS claim to be very "biblical" and take a high view of Scripture
I suspect the REAL reason for the breadth and diversity of opinions on origins relates to the demographics of the specific congregations within the FCoS.
A trendy city centre minister is not going to put forward YEC.
A minister in rural Lewis will almost certainly be YEC
The empirical evidence supports this.
Trying to be all things to all men I suspect......
| | | | Gordon Leith (Guest) | 28/02/2011 12:45 | It is good that some writers on this thread have had their faith built up by examining the subject of Creation.
However - and maybe I am being naive and simplistic - is the whole question of 'How the world was made' becoming a massive distraction from the centrality of the Christian faith - which is Jesus Christ, his death, resurrection and completed work in terms of the means of bringing lost sinners into communion with a holy God?
Could it be that it is a device of the enemy of God to have so much time spent on debate on this issue?
| | | | Alec (Guest) | 28/02/2011 13:15 | Gordon
It is a very good question. Martin has already alluded to this. The key doctrines of the Christian faith SHOULD be where the effort lie.
However, I dont think that the whole question of Origins is peripheral or irrelevant. We live in an age of serious aggresive secularism in the UK at any rate.
The Origins debate is one the many sticks used to beat Christians. When Christians say that they believe in a young erath and a 6 day creation, they get mercillesly mocked.
And if they go for another paradigm, like OEC or TE, they get accused of trying to shoehorn God into Science, of tacitly admitting that the bible is inadequate.
Besides the entire Christian faith is based on a model of Perfect creation, Sin, corruption, forgiveness, redemption and future re-created perfection.
Trying to fit that with an evolutionary paradigm is, well, difficult.....
I would argue that the reason that there is so much time spent on this subject now is for the "Polarisation" reasons I gave a few days ago. Basically, the Christian church in the UK is becoming increasingly fundamentalist against a backdrop of increasing secularisation
End result - major league conflict of ideas and a lot if having to justify one's position. A process which is NOT helped by having a whole smorgasbord of origins paradigms presented as a "wide range of views" all of which are acceptable.
As I said before, only one MAY be right - they could actually all be wrong.
Its maybe the Raelians who have got the right ideas!!!
| | | | Martin Lisemore | 28/02/2011 13:18 | Gordon, that's been my point entirely.
My own feet are in the Creationist camp, and have never been anywhere else. Having once tasted how good the Lord is, the issue of how did the earth come into being is really quite small to me.
'Could it be that it is a device of the enemy of God to have so much time spent on debate on this issue?'
That's my other point. OK, this is a forum for Christians, and others, to air their views, discuss issues and or learn from one another. It's gets heated sometimes,but mostly friendly and accepting of each others views. But it's not a great vacuum for resources, time or money.
This Creationist/Evolutionist thing is now far from friendly and acknowledging other people are free to hold different views. It's the latest in a very long stream of arguments within the church. Divisive, hateful at times, and diverting us from the real work of every Christian.
| | | | RF (Guest) | 28/02/2011 16:00 | Alec has produced a good piece at 13.15.
Over the years the authority of the bible has been withered away by science and education. The process of science is not hateful [it does not have feelings], and in the main atheists are not spiteful - but Christians often seem to resent intelligent study of their claims. There are some massive claims that have withered on the vine and those of religion bent often respond by pick and mixing their assertions; it can stimulate non believers to shake their heads as the process unfolds.
Some atheist are aware that the religious establishment has power e.g.in the Lords and concessions e.g regarding faith schools, so that being so the unfaithful would seem to have a right to challenge such influence and loosening of the purse to aid religion.
| | | | Gordon Leith (Guest) | 28/02/2011 16:21 | RF, you said tat "There are some massive claims that have withered on the vine".
Could you perhaps list some of those please.
Any claim htat is not based on the Bible deserves to fail. However I would be interested to know of those that are Bible-based and have failed.
| | | | Martin Lisemore | 28/02/2011 17:14 | So would I!
| | | | Rosemary Cameron | 28/02/2011 23:01 | Alec
My comments on the FCofS should not be read as approval of their non-position - simply an attempt to answer your initial question. I would agree that what we believe about creation is important, even fundamental, and worth fighting about, in the right way. (That does not include being hateful.)
When Paul preached the gospel to the Athenians, he started with creation. Our post-christian society is not so different from that of Athens in Paul's day so we can learn something from his tactics.
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