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Scottish Christian politics: is the party over?
The escalating assault on Christian values in 21st-century Britain from emboldened neo-secularist agendas, coupled with the extremely grave economic and social problems now facing us, is causing Christians to increasingly consider how disciples of Christ can exert greater influence in and on the world in which we live.
At the Scottish elections in 2007, more than a few were encouraged by the emergence of the Scottish Christian Party and the attendant prospect of enhanced engagement with the cut and thrust of the national and local political process.
Although the SCP was an ‘infant’ and struggled to take adult steps in very early life, many gave the party the benefit of the doubt. Even the fact that the Party’s leader was located ‘south of the border’ was not a huge deterrence to those who empathised with what was being attempted within Scotland.
Much achieved
What the SCP did manage to achieve in a very short timescale and with very limited resources was, many would say, commendable. OK, there were controversies around which Bible version to use and some of the more radical policies relating to how criminals should be dealt with, but none of the objections were insurmountable; and the general understanding was that policies which were being, of necessity, developed ‘on the hoof’ were fluid rather than set in stone.
Across the country, the Western Isles offered the best change of gaining a seat; and with a local, very able and well-respected candidate, a very encouraging response and result – albeit falling short of a win – was obtained.
But now...??
With the election over, the hyper-activity necessarily dropped down a gear, but some of the embryonic mechanisms, discussions and necessary infrastructure-building have since received, and are still receiving – in the Highlands at least – considered and considerable input and effort.
However at a national level – and, we are now two years down the track – there does not appear to be much visible evidence of thought-through policies, public engagement, candidate selection or other solid preparations for the next election(s).
Meanwhile, persistent efforts by SCP enthusiasts and critics alike have consistently failed to elicit responses from the party, or prompt it into public debate. And unanswered phone calls and e-mails to the body, even to join its ranks, have created an impression that the SCP was a flash in the pan. Additionally, those SCP activists who, in 2007, refuted charges of carpet-bagging and opportunism are finding it increasingly difficult to sustain their earlier arguments. There have been also concerns expressed about an autocratic ethos which is apparently stifling development of the SCP at all levels of operation, influence and credibility.
To Party or not...
One of the perennial arguments surrounding Christian political engagement is whether it is better to work through the mainstream parties or, alternatively, to establish a distinct and discrete Christian entity. However this is a false dichotomy: these options are not mutually exclusive. Some (Christians) might be called into mainstream parties; others might feel the need to work within an exclusively Christian outfit. It can be ‘both and’ rather than ‘either/or’. [And at the end of the day, each individual has to find God’s will for his or her life.]
But all of this goes far beyond the question of the viability of any one party – Christian or otherwise.
The facts remain. Another election is looming and our country is increasingly being dragged down –economically, socially and spiritually – by policies which are devoid of traditional values and moral principles. Meanwhile Christians are still permitted to run for office and still allowed a vote.
The question before us
So the question remains. How does the Christian community respond to the spiritual degeneration within our (democratic) country and the prevailing political process?
Some are of the view that Christian discipleship and secular politics should be kept entirely discrete from one another: that these areas of life represent two quite separate ‘kingdoms’.
Many others feel it would be an abrogation of our responsibilities under God and as citizens with a Christian faith, to fail to get involved.
Since the time of the last election at least one prominent SCP candidate has been encouraged by his community to stand again; but this time as an ‘independent’. And, with the backing of local prayer and support allied to the substantial store of research and expertise within the Christian community nationally, this could be a viable alternative.
And aside from running for seats in parliament, there are (surely?) many opportunities for Christians at local level and within their respective communities, to engage with politicians and the policy process.
Without suggesting how God might lead in all of these things, the need to be salt and light is ever before us. So these questions do not to go away.
Cast your vote below.
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| | Peter Carr | 26/04/2009, 20:02 | | I agree with John. If they are your proposals then they are your property. Why not share them?
| | | Rosemary Cameron | 28/04/2009, 21:02 | | I have sent my discussion paper on a proposed structure for the SCP to the Editor. I believe it will appear on the new SCP forum mentioned by the Editor above so John, you will need to register to be able to see it.
| | | Bob Handyside | 13/06/2009, 14:33 | | On a recent trip to Caithness I was encouraged when informed of the interest in the Scottish Christian Party generated through the Christians Together website. I stood in the elections for the SCP and was encouraged to receive over 4000 votes - a not derisory amount for a little known candidate. Though still a supporter of the party, at 75 years of age, I would be unlikely to stand again.
I do have to agree with some of the criticism of the administration and of the lack of leadership response. I do not speak for George Hargreaves or the SCP but I would agree that there is a need for elected office bearers and possibly a Scottish leader. I do not know what George’s position is on this matter. But I would want to balance this with the Party’s undoubted achievements in receiving around 28,000 votes. There is obviously a foundation to be built upon. George Hargreaves is still striving to establish a Christian voice in politics albeit currently in the London area.
But I have to say I am somewhat dismayed at the nature of some of the criticism levelled against our campaign. The only reason I was induced to stand for the Party was particularly because of George’s absolutely distinctive Christian vision. I simply cannot understand any professing Christian who was upset at the honesty and uncompromisingly Christian stance of the Party. Many Christians were overjoyed to awake one morning and see the word of God displayed on public highways in this hostile secular humanist society. Why on earth would any genuine Christian be upset over the slogan ‘Proclaiming Christ’s Lordship.’ Would they prefer us to hide our true beliefs in the interest of grovelling for votes, like all the other Parties.
Yes, we never got voted in. But we did take away 28,000 thousand votes from unlistening politicians. That wasn’t a bad start to build upon. And it was blatantly obvious that the Churches did not support us in most cases. Some of the most virulent criticism emanated from the clergy. They advocated voting for politicians dedicated to ungodly policies and sneered at our Christian witness. Some of your correspondents appear to take a similar view.
So here is something to consider. If the SCP got it so badly wrong would you critics like to show us how to form a Party, maintain a Christian ethos and win an election. Do you have the workers ready to plod round doors in all weathers. If you live in Lochinver, Scourie, Inverbervie, Ullapool or Rogart and got a SCP leaflet through your door one rainy day then it was probably from me. I was on a weekend break and though I stood in the West of Scotland Region I wanted to help one of our best candidates in Highland Region. Though I am certainly not averse to online forums I considered this activity more useful than sitting at home typing e mails.
Finally do you have a leader with the qualities of George Hargreaves with his communications skills, contacts and ability to inspire? Call it charisma if you will. Scotland awaits such a leader. But for sure it doesn’t need a sanitised version of the egotistical infighting as evidenced in the current Westminster political scene.
Bob Handyside. Glasgow.
| | | Andrea Mac | 13/06/2009, 23:27 | | Bob,
Thank you for your comments and explanation of what goes on behind the scenes. I don't think anyone would deny that it takes great dedication and perseverance, often meeting hostility from Christians and non-Christians alike. I also thank you for the part you have played in trying to give voters an opportunity to vote for a party with morals and a Christian foundation.
Yes, I'm sure some of the criticism received was completely unjustified, even more disappointing when it comes from those you would have thought would have supported you.
I voted for your party the first time you stood and I would have loved to have voted for it again. However, between these two elections it seemed to us that no-one was prepared to answer our enquiries or engage with us in any way. We couldn't find what your policies were or how you intended to deliver them.
As I'm sure you would agree, anyone can call themselves a Christian Party but we have to be more discerning than that and find out who is behind the scenes and what their beliefs and aims are. This, sadly, is where we feel let down. We were never able to find out this information.
I'm one of those who feels your slogan 'Proclaiming Christ' Lordship' to be not the best choice. As a Christian, I'm not upset or ashamed by it at all but are you not also trying to get the votes of non-Christians who still hold to Christian values? We are no longer a Christian country and familiar with phrases like this and there's no point in displaying such a slogan to a nation who have no idea, and don't even care, what it means, other than thinking it to be a bit weird. None of us wants you to hide your true beliefs at all, in fact we would still like to know what they are as we were never able to find out!
Often criticism is unjustified but sometimes it is valid, and not made to discourage you but rather to present your party as a truly and unashamedly Christian one which people would want to vote for.
We really do want to vote for you but we need to know what we're voting for!
| | | Bob Handyside (Guest) | 14/06/2009, 16:15 | | Andrea, Many thanks for your courteous and valued response. I also fully understand and agree with your comments. I'm sure many of the SCP supporters are aware of the problems - and with you folks - I hope they will be addressed soon. I'm no sycophantic apologist for George, but I do know he's has been extremely busy with respect to elections in London, Christian TV and not least his wife's serious health problems. I do hope therefore he can visit Scotland soon and be willing to enter into full discussions about the way ahead for the SCP. It would be sad if the momentum, progress and goodwill gained should evaporate. Sincerely Bob
| | | bob handyside (Guest) | 14/06/2009, 17:21 | | Hi again Andrea In case some nit picking reader accuses me of contradicting myself I should say I omitted two words in the first sentence in my previous response. It should have read 'agree with most of your comments.' Therefore for clarity I add. Obviously I do not agree with there being 'no point in displaying the Word of God' to an unbelieving nation! I'm sure you know Ezekiel was told to declare the truth to a rebellious nation irrespective of their reponse or indeed understanding. (Ezek 2:5) It was a witness for which they would one day be judged. Christian history is replete with examples of people who were ignorant of the gospel until confronted with the written Word of God. I also think many who say they don't understand what we stood for really mean they know very well -but don't like it. Prior to the election I spoke at four hustings, a number of churches and had much coverage in the local papers' letter pages. I had plenty opposition but none which said they did not understand what I stood for. God bless Bob
| | | Andrea Mac | 14/06/2009, 20:45 | | Thanks Bob for your response.
Please be assured that I never suggested you should not display the Word of God. It is only the actual slogan itself which I feel isn't appropriate, not the message behind it.
I, and some others it would seem, just find it a very strange title for a Christian Party, bearing in mind that you hope to attract those who want a return to Christian principles and morality but aren't actually familiar with the Bible itself. It's a bit like giving an authorised version of the Bible to someone who has never even opened a Bible and has very basic language skills. Even although there's absolutely nothing wrong with the King James version, you'd lose the person before you even began. Would it not be more appropriate to give them a modern and simple version of the Bible so they could actually have a chance of understanding it? We have to meet people where they're at, not where we'd like them to be.
Please listen to and consider the comments from other Christians. We're not all hostile and critical. Many of us want your party to do well and are trying to make you aware of how we see the party from the outside.
Thanks for your contribution to this forum and I wish you well.
| | | Peter Carr | 15/06/2009, 08:27 | | Bob said, "Finally do you have a leader with the qualities of George Hargreaves with his communications skills, contacts and ability to inspire?"
I am sure that God has leaders in mind who can work as a team without the need to be a 'one man band'. Leaders who will be sensative to the post-Christian land in which we live, where there is a morality nettle to be grasped that will allow true Christians the 'in' that they require into a political scene crying out for salt and light.
Thank you Bob for your contribution, not all criticism is negative, but when examined more closely has the power to move people and their thinking on. Criticism also comes with the territory for all who dare to put their head up above the parapet!
| | | Rosemary Cameron | 15/06/2009, 22:46 | | Bob, I think that the "momentum, progress and goodwill gained" has already evaporated judging by the loss of 10,000 SCP voters between 2007 and 2009. I also think that the last thing Scotland needs is a charismatic leader like George Hargreaves who is here today and gone tomorrow. I think we need someone who lives in Scotland and who is prepared to listen to the Scots. George Hargreaves is far too busy down in London to be able to take the party forward in Scotland.
The loss of 10,000 voters should be a wake up call to the SCP that it can't take the Scottish Christian vote for granted. Hopefully it will be.
| | | Peter Carr | 22/06/2009, 22:24 | | From the SCP H & I website re the recent local council election in Inverness;
"For those of you interested in numbers, the total electorate in the Inverness West Ward was 6623. It seems the Lord is teasing us with numbers. You may recall that the Scottish Christian Party obtained 6332 votes in the Highlands and Islands Region in May 2007. "
Donald, can you explain please from a theological or doctrinal (or maybe both) stand point what you mean by saying "It seems the Lord is teasing us with numbers"?
Do you mean that;
a. He is playing games? b. There is some deep significant and hidden message in these numbers?
Or is it simply possible that it is all just a coincidence?
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